Comments on: Ubuntu 10.4 (Lucid) boot experience changing from using usplash to plymouth

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 27 Nov 2010 00:24:55 +0000

This is driving me crazy. No matter what I do I get NO boot splash just black screens then suddenly the login screen.

I can’t figure it out to save my butt. There are no error codes. I turn on my Aspire One 532h-xxx and I get the BIOS splash then a black screen with a blinking cursor, then it flickers to another just black screen, flickers once more then I find myself at the login screen.

Ubuntu seems to be degrading as time goes on all to appease the Windows users…

By: ssuuddoo

ssuuddoo — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:07:43 +0000

I know it may be better, but as 4 me, I have a small network of 7 computers and when comparing booting of karmic and lucid, the logo in lucid mostlny not seen because of all the flipping/switching resolution and so. the really working logo I have seen only on booting from my USB key.
(and some computers just sometimes log-in only into the terminal without running the x-server)

I know I dunno a lot about all informations below and behind this switch, but as 4 me I would make plymouth just a beta.

By: Christoph

Christoph — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:09:27 +0000

Plymouth and KernelModesetting were official features of Fedora 10. How could we introduce plymouth without working on KMS? Most of the drivers were ported by people like Adam Jackson who happen to be the X maintainers of Fedora and Red Hat. notify-osd as an example of a Ubuntu developent and the way how they contribute: It is incompatible with the previous desktop notification spec from the Galago project and required changes to nearly all the involved components. The Ubuntu maintainers didn't bother to upstream their patches but preferred to silently break things. I'm not aware of any other distributions that ship notify-osd because of this breakage. When everything was done Ubuntu's notify-osd maintainer showed up on the XDG mailing list and said we need a new notification specification and here it is. While I agree he was right in principle, the order was wrong: Work with all affected parties on the new spec is the first step instead of happily breaking things and then expect others to take over your changes. Frankly speaking I think Ubuntu is the distribution that takes the most from others (mainly Debian) and returns only very little. The numbers of Greg Kroah-Hartman may be inaccurate, but they show the problem space very well.

By: Oxmosys

Oxmosys — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:12:43 +0000

Well anyway ubuntu waited for drivers to be available while Fedora started to use their bootsplash before good drivers existed. AFAIK, it is false that Fedora worked on the drivers, but it is true that ubuntu uses plymouth probably without participating in its development, and so does other distributions with ubuntu own creations (upstart, now notify-OSD and soon simplescan, and probably some others).

I don’t see why this should be seens as miserable as in the end, all distributions finally contribute to each other.

By: Christoph

Christoph — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:34:56 +0000

When someone suggested plymouth back in July 2008, one of the commenters replied:
“I support the idea but I do think that it should only be considered after Fedora has done all the dirty work of getting it to work at all ”

This was meant to be fun, but Ubuntu devs have proven him right. Instead of participating in X development so that KMS becomes available in all drivers, the let others do the job and when it’s finished they pick the low hanging fruits. Sorry, but this is extremely miserable.

By: brad

brad — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:39:24 +0000

under Assumptions:

so it seams reasonable seems

By: jordanwb

jordanwb — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:48:13 +0000

TheBooTroo: Good question.

Is Plymouth what openSuse uses?

By: Peterson Espaçoporto

Peterson Espaçoporto — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:11:05 +0000

Great news!!! =D

By: TheBootroo

TheBootroo — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:09:35 +0000

so what was the interest of new XSplash in Karmic ?