Planned Changes to Next Ubuntu Version 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

Currently the following list of changes everyone is expecting Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)
New Application : PiTiVi

PiTiVi is a non-linear audio/video editor for GNU/Linux using the GStreamer multimedia framework.

PiTiVi has been chosen for two reasons:

* It has a simple interface
* The company funding PiTiVi, Collabora, are "pushing for it to be included" in Ubuntu

Application Replacement : F-Spot

There are suggestions that F-Spot will be replaced with gThumb or Shotwell.Also gThumb is not suggested replacement for F-spot but and for Eye of Gnome (default image viewer) because gThumb is faster and better.Shotwell is also suggested replacement for F-spot because it is lighter and faster version of it.

Planning to remove default application : GIMP

On UDS-L they decided that Gimp will be removed from default installation of next coming Ubuntu 10.04.

Default Backup Tool

There are 2 tool that can become default backup tool, Deja Dup and Back In Time

Ubuntu Music Store Coming In Lucid

The Lucid music store project aims to deliver the ability to purchase music from within a desktop music player.

Do you like these changes and what would you like to see on next ubuntu version

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43 Responses

  1. bobgrauer says:

    Does it matter if you can install yourself?

  2. I would like to see them add back access to all of the options that they have been removing for the last two years. Starting with the xscreensavers advanced options dialog.

    The next thing I would like to see is an ability to easily change the default gdm login screen.

    I think that those are the sorts of things that should be focused on before considering whether or not to remove a program such as the Gimp.

  3. slumbergod says:

    The number one priority for the Ubuntu team better be STABILITY. Every release they let out with regressions or serious issues (and perhaps even minor issues if there are enough of them at the same time) helps to tarnish the reputation of the distro.

  4. New Application : PiTiVi. Fine with me, it’s already in my machine.

    Application Replacement : F-Spot. I don’t like F-Spot. Doesn’t do the job the way I want to. I use gThumb, EyeOfGnome and Digikam. Let’s see how Shotwell fares.

    Planning to remove default application : GIMP. No big deal. Don’t need it. If I ever do I’ll get it.

    Default Backup Tool. Okay. I already use Back In Time.

    Ubuntu Music Store Coming In Lucid. Fine with me.

  5. Spike says:

    What is up ubuntu. Took away the customizing options for gem. Took out pidgin for arguably unstable and feature lacking empathy. And this not taking gimp out of default can be reasoned to make sence since it is considered complicated and takes up space and not everyone uses it. The idea of adding pitivi makes no sense following any of that and I’ve used it frankly it sucks. As a 5 and a half user of ubuntu I am very dissapointed.

  6. digi says:

    I vote for stability – although 9.10 has no problems for me thus far. That is pretty amazing, for I can’t remember any release since warty that did not need a ‘fix’.

  7. Sam says:

    I like the gimp, but the logic makes sense. If there’s room on the cd it would be nice to have after the ui redesign is finished. I did like the idea of Ubuntu coming with such a powerful graphics editor. It gives some bragging rights to say that your OS *comes* with software as powerful as Photoshop & Microsoft Office & fits on a standard cd.

    I’d like to see the install give a list of suggested programs to install as well, and have what’s on the cd be just a basic set of apps.

    It goes without saying that stability is important for a LTS, but I think Ubuntu can have a lot of quirks for users and that this should become more of a priority. A recent Lifehacker poll stated that a majority of users liked Ubuntu “Save a few quirks.” (

    Glad to see a video editor coming and the Ubuntu Music Store could be pretty exciting. I would like to see a photo program that can compete with Picasa.

  8. Mitov says:

    Dont touch Gimp !

  9. Christopher W says:

    A separate /home partition by default that isn’t formatted with every upgrade. Useful for newbies.

  10. titaniumtux says:

    Whether GIMP is a stock app or not makes little difference in practice; it’s not included in the Netbook Remix but I do use GIMP so I install it on netbooks, I love it and Ubuntu should support it. It would be nice to keep GIMP in the live session, so it should stay. Also, it’s not like it’s getting replaced by an alternative that either has the same capacity but is more user-friendly or is just as user-friendly but has more features. Without the GIMP, more n00bs will likely try to run Photoshop in Wine, probably pirated versions, and we don’t want to encourage piracy.

    F-spot should be removed. Just for reminding me of how useless it is and that I never use it, I’m uninstalling it right now.

  11. Jake says:

    Gimp should remain in the repository but it is not something that everyone uses…I´m happy about that change the main idea should be stability and ease of use. I love Ubuntu but it scares people away that is really what makes it for most the third choice. Support it all, apt-get in UBR is amazing for those netbook folk, but face it, netbooks will not survive when you have subpar full on laptops for ~500 USD. Full support of Ubuntu, but keep it to CD size and the smaller the better, target those who can download the .iso and live

  12. ublintu says:

    F-Spot is useless. Now I will try gThumb and Shotwell.
    GIMP is really important for for me, so I will miss it, I will install it.

  13. Cybersig says:

    I think GIMP can be interchangeable with GNUPaint.

  14. kaninfaan says:

    Ill second this:
    ” Christopher W says:
    November 21, 2009 at 6:23 am

    A separate /home partition by default that isn’t formatted with every upgrade. Useful for newbies.”

  15. Farzad says:

    Why don’t you use QuickStart as the default backup application. It’s perfect!

  16. Russell says:

    Ditch rhythmbox for banshee or exaile/amarok, especially with the music store idea, a better default music player is a must. If they sell FLAC instead of just OGG and/or MP3 I’ll be a customer. And include VLC if there is room. A good all around media player should be a part of the default install. Just make sure it can search for the codecs it might need which will not be included by default.

    And no more screw ups with the graphics.

  17. Neojames says:

    The removal of gimp may push me away, as I like being to start editing my pics as soon as it’s installed and I even use a live cd to edit when i’m away. While the interface may be complicated anyone who uses adobe photoshop regally will feel at home and it may encorage them to switch. Also I feel no need to make it smaller again as it is already 3x smaller than windows and 5x smaller than Mac OS X!

  18. M.H. says:

    I’m waiting for radical changes and improvements in gnome…

  19. Mohan says:

    Pretty cool, looking forward to which ones will make into the LTS.

  20. joeMachine says:

    Why GIMP? Gimp is good.

  21. JohnnyB says:

    Removal of GIMP is bad, but I’ll just install it anyway, used it for years and ain’t gonna change now! I like to do things myself, so never ever use apps like F-Spot, I can quite successfully manage to copy files from my camera to the PC with any help that way.

    Also must get sounds sorted out – recording sound to any decent level on Ubuntu is dreadful. I spent a whole day patching this and that, trawling the net to find out how to be able to play through and record from Line-in, only to discover the quality was not worth the hassle. I ended up using another (ouch!) O/s to get the job done properly.

    Also looking forward to the LTS version for my next work machine upgrade – I live on Ubuntu every day.

  22. ghabuntu says:

    Well I hardly use GIMP. I also think the removal of Pidgin in favor of Empathy was a bit stupid. In 10.04, I’d love to see a separate /home partition that I’d not need to worry about anytime I am messing with my system or making an upgrade.
    In terms of apps, as long as they will be available in the repos, so be it.

  23. Artem Ervits says:

    Did they say why they’re removing Gimp? Size on disk issue?

  24. nogimpgone says:

    So they are removing the Gimp because of space constraints, why don’t they remove Mono?
    It takes in about 30MB!! That’s more than the gimp takes in!!
    space saving, BS!!!
    Loosing the Gimp is stupid, it will lead to more people to try to use Photoshop in Wine!!
    A rescue scenario could be, have gimp without documentation!!

  25. Daniel Holm says:

    I do not like that GIMP will be removed. Also I’d like to see Rhythmbox being replaced by Banshee.

    Besides that they are on the right track. F-Spot is slow and changes the dir-hierarchy.

  26. KenP says:

    I would like to see Kubuntu given equal love as the default Ubuntu. This should be #1 priority. Right now, Canonical is leaning too heavily towards Ubuntu.

  27. karlzt says:

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File “/usr/bin/pitivi”, line 117, in
    File “/usr/bin/pitivi”, line 104, in _init_gobject_gtk_gst
    AttributeError: ‘module’ object has no attribute ‘require’

    on karmic 🙁

  28. Brett says:

    I don’t get it. Adding a video editor, but getting rid of the graphics editor?

    Where is the replacement?

    Of course I can just install it, but I could “just install” a lot of things… its really nice when I don’t have to.

    It really doesn’t take that much space.

  29. I have tried PiTiVi, and I can say, it is not good – I really don’t like it! Have you heard about openshot? This is great, you have to try it, really. It works, and looks great. =)

  30. joomla says:

    bad news i like gimp

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